Ordination and Young People

Me being commissioned by Bishop Dorff

A few days ago, the Board of Ordained Ministry of the Southwest Texas Conference voted to approve me for ordination. I cried. I was so happy. And there was still some sadness lingering. It has been a long and difficult journey. And not just for me.

A few months ago, I was having lunch with a new friend from an area Baptist church. I was saying how I really needed some more time for this project I was working on because I had a lot of upcoming meetings for ordination. I think I sighed and said, “I will be SO glad when this is all over. It just takes so long.” She said, “I know! It’s going to take me 9-12 months!” I didn’t know how to tell her that our process usually takes 9-12 YEARS.

I’ve been “officially” in it since 2001 when I wrote a letter to my District Superintendent requesting a candidacy guide. Granted, some of those years involved finishing college and my Masters in Divinity. I also took a “time-out” from the process when it became clear that I could not be in school far away and continue on–it was just not working for me and my conference. I know Skype has really changed that for the folks coming into my conference now. After school, I took some time away from the process to discern if I even wanted to be part of my conference. I’d grown pretty detached after the earlier difficulties and my time away. And my conference did not make a lot of efforts to keep me around (thankfully, this has also changed!). When I did return to my conference, I was wary, having been hurt before. I fully committed in August 2007 (2 years after graduating from seminary) and after one deferment, I made it! I will be 32 a couple weeks after my ordination. The youngest in our class will be 27. There are 3 of us under 35 (out of 14).

I am grateful for our process. It has given me some incredible mentors and friendships. And, I am grateful that I am not the only one to have had problems making it through to the end. I am part of a group of people from Candler School of Theology that meets once a year. This group let me see how many people left the process along the way. It also showed me how many of us are still in process, nearly 7 years after graduation. Of my group of 15 that meets every year, 7 of us are United Methodists. 5 of us were in the ordination process. 2 decided they could do their work without going through process. 1 was ordained 4 years after graduation from seminary and 2 of us will be ordained this year. 1 could not get an appointment–that left her frustrated and she withdrew. Another had a really difficult time but finally received an appointment and is still moving forward but has a year to go (if all goes well). At least one of my friends had trouble being appointed because of her gender. All of us had problems with the system or deferments along the way. When we get together and discuss our other friends from seminary, we learned many of them switched denominations (UCC or DOC) and are ordained. Several of them decided they could do their current ministry without going through our process for ordination. Many of my friends were scholarship recipients and some of the best in their fields. I often wondered why they let me in the group! Yet, even such good candidates had trouble making it through.

I love our process. I love that we call for a practice of submission to the faithful and prayerful decisions of those called to this difficult task of discerning who is ready for ministry. And, when I look at a handful of friends who have had such a difficult time, I wonder what is the problem? Potentially it is me and my group. Maybe we did need those extra years. But, I also know we are not alone. Many young clergy have experienced the same problems.

As we once again move into another General Conference, I hope that people are thinking of young people. Not because we are a culture obsessed with youth and not because they are the saviors of our church. But because they are a minority group that is most affected by any changes made. Every new agenda, new add-on, new mission, and even a huge restructure affects the lives of young people greatly. Those changes have affected my career as an incoming clergy person but the changes of general conferences past have created ripples that affect young people all over. Some rallying cries gave us new hearts for mission and evangelism, while arguments within cause some to feel increasingly disconnected from the Church. Some general conference initiatives energized churches to reach people in new neighborhoods. Others caused churches to grasp for the money and energy of the young people in their midst–pushing them further away. Some policies have helped to start vibrant ministries among young people in the Central Conferences, growing new leaders in some of the most difficult areas for life to occur. Other priority decisions told the world we need young, innovative voices and young people rise up to this challenge–often finding there isn’t actually a place at the table. There will not be many young people at the tables at General Conference. How can we hear their voices?

And, if you are still reading–what was YOUR experience with ordination? I would love to gather more stories!

Charged. Rooted. United.

Krin and Joy (via Skype) working to craft their address

January 19-21 I had the incredible blessing of watching Krin and Joy craft the Young People’s Address. I was really impressed watching them work. Krin Ali is 18 and from Denver, USA. Joy Bahol is 24 and from Manila, Philippines. Joy could not get a visa to be at the session in Tampa but she and Krin worked over Skype at all hours of the day. When this photo was taken, Joy had been up all night and the sun was rising in Manila as she watched each address (episcopal and laity). Even though she’d been up all night, Joy added a lot to the conversation. Krin got to give his portions of the address there in person and it was a powerful testimony to the work God is doing in his life and their prophetic word to our church.

Both Krin and Joy bring a lot of energy to this and are very excited by the opportunity to address the General Conference. They also have a lot to say. Everything will be centered around the words “Charged. Rooted. United.” How are young people in your area living out those words?

Christmas Eve Early

This is the star I made for the service.


I work at a new church start that has the demographic focus of young adults (people 18-35). In our staff meeting a few months ago we discussed our Christmas Eve service and all the issues surrounding Christmas Eve, Christmas Day, and New Years. For all churches, the fact that Christmas and New Years fell on Sunday was problematic. For our new church of mostly young people it was a life or death issue–how would our church weather the low attendance?? Most of our people were going out of town to see parents. We didn’t want guests to visit and see a small group that looked weak. And, we didn’t just want to NOT celebrate Christmas! So, we did something that, as a liturgical nerd, made me cringe. We celebrated Christmas early. A LOT EARLY! The day that school got out early–December 21st.

For weeks I worried about this. We spend so much time talking with our congregations about Advent and the importance of waiting. We work against the consumer culture that surrounds Christmas and decorate slowly, practicing what it means to wait and enjoy Christmas in smaller doses instead of one huge “I NEED EVERYTHING NOW” greed fest. How could we turn around and celebrate Christmas early??? It also just felt weird. All of my churchy friends were planning for their big Christmas Eve service and we were just “off”. Finally, I worried about attendance. Would we have a large group of people? Servant Church usually worships between 65 and 75 (though we grow pretty steadily each week) and many of these regulars were going out of town. How should we prepare?

I made a Facebook invite for our Christmas Eve Service to try and get an idea of numbers. We had 34 people respond by Monday, many of them couples and all of them regular attendees. That was about 60 already. On top of that, for the first time, almost everyone responding had invited LOTS of friends. And their friends were saying yes because they were still in town and it sounded like a good service. We bought more candles. Got more food. Scrounged around for more seating. When all was said and done, we had 92 people that night. Our biggest Sunday since we’ve existed (we are about a year old) was 93 for a baptism. We had 92 people on a Wednesday night at 7pm.

I’m not saying any of this to brag. Some of you are thinking 92 is small. I’m OK with that. I’m saying it because it taught this liturgical nerd a lesson. People want to celebrate Christmas. They often want to be invited. And for the folks going out of town, and early celebration might be their only time to celebrate Christmas at church. I am pretty sure that from now on, no matter where I’m pastoring, I will offer an early Christmas celebration. It’s a good way to meet new people and involve the people from your church who may not be their on “the actual Christmas Eve”. If you want to reach young people who will be gone at Christmas but are around the rest of the year, early Christmas is a way to offer Jesus in their cultural time and space.

An Advent Prayer

Nativity by He Qi

As I’ve been finishing up my work for ordination, I’ve been saying this prayer a lot. It’s been especially good for Advent. I hope you find as much peace in it as I do:
The prayer is titled, “Sustain Me in the Coming Then” from Guerillas of Grace by Ted Loder

O God, empty me of angry judgements,
And aching disappointments,
And anxious trying,
And breathe into me
Something like quietness and confidence,
That the lion and the lamb in me
May lie down together
And be led by a trust
As straightforward as a little child.

Catch my pride and doubt off guard
That, at least for the moment,
I may sense your presence and your caring,
And be surprised by a sudden joy
Rising in me now
To sustain me in the coming then.

Youth Ministry Basics

Rod Hocott, the Conference Youth Coordinator for Arkansas Conference, sent out this wonderful message this morning to his youth workers. I thought that, at the end of summer, it was a good way to begin evaluating our youth ministries as folks begin planning the year. These are the simple basics to any strong youth ministry. You know, the ones we already know but are so easily forgotten when we are tired or under stress. It’s good to remember the foundation before another year is planned. Without anything further, here is Rod:

I began looking back over my years in youth ministry in order to glean the things that I thought had worked in helping youth become strong in their faith. I was able to come up with six simple things that at each church I served all worked together to increase youth attendance so discipleship could take place. They are simply the basics of youth ministry, whether you have done youth ministry for 30 years or three months, or whether your youth group has one or one hundred.

BASIC NO. 1: The Senior Pastor is the main youth minister of any local church. A study done by Search Institute on Exemplary Youth Ministries discovered this to be a main thread that ran through all the youth groups they spotlighted. This does not mean the Senior Pastor DOES the youth ministry, but that they are the support, the cheerleader, and the liaison between the youth and the congregation.

BASIC NO. 2: Parent support/involvement. Parents may not want a steady job of being in attendance every Sunday night, but they do care and want to be involved in some way in the lives of their children. (After all, they rarely ever miss a ball game, a concert, a play, or a competition that their kids are in.) This can be done in a number of ways including snack supper servers, van drivers, short-term Bible study leaders, fund-raising coordinators, retreat chaperones, etc. Don’t ever negate the power of parent’s involvement when it comes to their promoting youth ministry and seeing to it that their kids are in attendance on a regular basis. Kids may say they don’t want their parents there and parents may say they don’t want to be there, but the group won’t grow without this very important element.

BASIC NO. 3: Have a working Youth Leadership Team. The Youth Leadership Team/Youth Council or whatever you choose to call it, is made up of youth and the adults who work with them, to plan, implement, and carry out the programming for the youth group. It gives the youth responsibility, allows them an avenue for their leadership skills to grow, and promotes youth group ownership. Youth Councils can be volunteer, elected or appointed (each of these methods has pros and cons). Regardless of how a Youth Council is established, the members must take their duties seriously and understand that their job is to set the stage for ministry to take place in their youth group. This can happen through games, songs, retreats, Bible lessons, or programs on social issues, and how all these areas pertain to their lives today. Once youth realize the program belongs to them, they become the promoters and invite not only the inactives, but their friends as well.

BASIC NO. 4: Committed adult volunteers. Putting together a team of adults who want to create relationships with youth to see them on their faith walk is probably the hardest job I had as a youth minister. But, if you recruit correctly, you can find those adults who love the Lord, love the youth, and are all about the spiritual growth of each member of the group. (Note: age, athletic ability, size and looks are not the hallmark of good volunteers. The question you need to ask is: are they relational?) FB, Tweeting, Texting, E-mail, youth newsletter, phone tree, announcements, individual contacts by phone and the list goes on and on. Since we all receive and assimilate information in different ways, all of the above forms of communication, plus many others, need to be used in order to reach the majority of the youth in the church. Always keep them informed about what is going on, what is coming up and how they can be participants in this thing we call “spiritual growth. (Monthly contact with parents will also help parents become allies in youth ministrsy)

BASIC NO. 5: Communicate! Communicate! Communicate! How, you ask? We live in a fast paced society with many ways to communicate available to us. E-mail, youth newsletter, phone tree, announcements, individual contacts by phone (every youth now has a cell phone) and the list goes on and on. Since we all receive and assimilate information in different ways, all of the above forms of communication, plus many others, need to be used in order to reach the majority of the youth in the church. Always keep them informed about what is going on, what is coming up and how they can be participants in this thing we call “spiritual growth.”

BASIC NO. 6: Take your day off and spend time with your family. The church is a great place to work, but as long as you keep giving, the church will keep taking until you are completely burned out. It is imperative . . . IMPERATIVE, that you take time for you or else you will not be at your best for your youth.

NOTE: Please note that none of these basics has anything to do with spiritual growth. These basics are meant to get kids in the door so that YOU can get on with the discipling process.

So, as you launch into a new year, put these basics to work and you may find your job will get not easier, but more organized. And with organization comes peace of mind and peace of mind makes you much more approachable by your youth.

Young People’s Ministries Seeking Presenters/Videos for Young People’s Address at General Conference, 2012.

Young People’s Ministries is organizing the Young People’s Address for the 2012 General Conference. It is an honor to be able to share about young people in ministry with the entire body of General Conference. It is also a huge responsibility.

On-Stage Presenters
We are seeking two young people to present the Young People’s Address at General Conference. The presentation will consist of several short video stories from ministries all over the world. Your responsibility will be to work with Young People’s Ministries staff to arrange the selected stories into a full presentation. This includes a general welcome and introduction, setting up and transitioning between the clips, and a closing. To apply as a presenter, please send us a 3-5 minute video that includes:
• You introducing a ministry story from your context
• A one minute story (a video or a slide show with narration) of the ministry you’re introducing
• Some closing remarks
• An explanation of why it is important to you to represent young people in the UMC to the General Conference.
Your application video is due no later than August 1, 2011.

Video Stories
In order to include many voices and to offer a diverse and more complete picture of young people in the United Methodist Church, we are incorporating video/pictures of ministries from around the world into the presentation hosted by our on-stage presenters. Please submit your one minute video or pictures with narration from your ministry context by October 31, 2011 to be considered for inclusion in the address.
Submission Guidelines:
• Must be one minute or less in length
• May either be video or pictures with voice over
• Copyrighted music or images that do not belong to the one submitting the video must include written permission from the copyright holder
• Every person appearing in the video must have a completed image release form on file with Young People’s Ministries
• Videos do not have to be in English. However, if they are in another language, please try to provide a translation.

Application Guidelines:
Send your presenter application video or ministry story digitally to Truong Le, On-Line Presence Coordinator for Young People’s Ministries at tle@gbod.org. Please consider using a service such as www.transferbigfiles.com if sending your video digitally. You can also submit your video on a CD or jump drive by mailing it to:
Young People’s Ministries
Truong Le
1908 Grand Ave
Nashville, TN 37212
A selection team comprised of DMYP division members and staff will choose two people to serve as on stage presenters and the video submissions to be included in the Young People’s Address.

Young Adult Summit

For Young Adults and Young Adult Workers

October 21-23

Austin, TX

$39

Through separate tracks as well as common learning, worship, and sharing times, participants will:

  • Connect with other leaders
  • Share ideas and resources
  • Develop leadership skills
  • Engage in meaningful conversation

More information coming soon!

Looking for a Great Band??

A good place to start would be the Denton Wesley Foundation in Northwest Texas.  You may not know much about music, but those who do know that University of North Texas is one of the finest music schools out there.  The Wesley Foundation band of Denton has a lot of talented musicians who want to have fun too.  They work to raise money for their missions so, if you’re interested in hiring a VERY talented group, contact Rev. Cammy Gaston,

director@dentonwesley.org

Information from the Webinar on Helping Young People Discern Their Calls

Hey y’all!  I said I’d post all the links from the webinar today so here they are:

If you want to email Emily with questions, you can find her at:  missemilymarie@gmail.com

For some places to go for help in this area:

  • Julie Peters at Church of the Resurrection has designed M.A.C. Track(Ministry as Career).  This process can work in any setting.  I am thinking of trying it out in our Austin District.
  • Centenary College in Louisiana has The Christian Leadership Centerand they would be happy to answer questions.
  • Youth Theological Initiative at Candler School of Theology, Emory University, Atlanta, GA
  • Duke Youth Academy at Duke Divinity School, Duke University, Durham, NC
  • Texas Youth Academy at Southwestern University, Georgetown, TX (sponsored by Texas C0nference UMC)

Graduating Seniors: 5 Steps to a Better Transition

I realize it’s early in the year to be talking about graduation but better transitions out of youth and college ministries is something I’ve been thinking about a lot lately.  I’ve decided on some things I would do if I were still a youth minister:

  1. Find out where my seniors are going after high school and connect them to their new people. I recently had someone email me with the contact information for one of their graduating youth.  This person knew I worked for a church that seeks to reach young adults and thought we’d be a good fit for their graduating senior.  I’ve since talked with this senior and planned a time to visit with her when she gets to Austin.  This is how our connectional system should work! She is moving from one ministry to another (hopefully).  We are not just dropping her off and hoping she’ll find the Wesley Foundation or a United Methodist Church in town.  We are being intentional and weaving her into the broader church.  Way to go pastors who do this! I wish I had.
  2. Be honest about the church.  Our seniors are often going to a context that does not invite them into the work of the church.  They had entire ministries and staffs devoted to them from birth to graduation–worship, service, and play opportunities geared to their contexts. Once they graduate, this all disappears.  Churches often have nothing for this age group or make a very minimal effort.  When you visit a church as a young person, you may be the only one your age there.  People may not even see you as a “real” potential member.  Let’s talk about this with our seniors and not try to hide it by hoping they enter a Wesley Foundation instead of a local church.  Someday they will leave college too and they are “young” until they are 35 or 40…
  3. Visit churches with them during their senior year. What is it like to be “the Visitor”? You need to know.  Seniors should take some field trips (if they will) and learn about other churches in and out of their denomination.  It would also be good to have some follow-up discussions.  Maybe you didn’t like everything but could you find a place there? Why or why not?
  4. Commission them to a mission field instead of graduating them out with kind words and a gift.  Now that they know the context they are walking into, let’s commission them as missionaries from our church into their new mission field.  Paul did this, why can’t we?? We can develop a ritual that no longer graduates them out, but pushes them onward as disciples.
  5. Connect them with an adult (NOT their parent) in the church who will check in with them throughout their first year and beyond.  Paul wrote letters.  We need to check in with our missionaries too.  Have adults in the congregation commit to a once a month check-in via Facebook, phone, text, visits, care packages, etc.  These adults can meet with one another to support their efforts and pray for their young adult.

These small steps could go a long way toward keeping our graduating seniors loved, supported, and connected.  Even just one of these steps could be helpful.  They would work for any type of graduating senior–those going to college, starting into the workforce, staying in town, moving far away, etc.  A few tweaks could also help them work for seniors in college.  It’s really all about staying connected and connecting them to people in far-off lands.  The UMC is capable of doing this because we can easily find a United Methodist prescence almost anywhere in the world.  How many pastors reading this have called on the connection in the past? We’ve stayed on gym floors, called the United Methodist Church in the small town when our car is broken down, asked to be connected to a mission project, used each other’s vehicles…why not call on one another to nurture our children into adulthood? Will you try it with your seniors this year?